The Overweb Challenge

MariaEuler | 2021-01-25 16:13:11 UTC | #1

The Overweb Challenge Community Space

What you can do here:

  • Connect with other participants during the event to form teams.
  • Discuss, present and develop your project.
  • Reach a wider community of interested free spirits thinking and making a better internet.

How to get started? Tell us about yourself and your project if you have one

We welcome both short "business cards" and long entries but are especially excited to read longer stories of what brought you to this point and who you are and what your project is.

Just add your answers below and our community managers will take it from there!




MariaEuler | 2021-01-13 11:30:38 UTC | #2


daveed | 2021-01-19 18:40:49 UTC | #3

I am Daveed Benjamin. I am the founder of Bridgit.io and Skōōl and the initiator of the Overweb. I am the de facto lead organizer of the challenge. I am working with a volunteer event manager. We could use some help in event organizing, social media, etc... Things are overall going well and we are excited about the possibilities. At the end of the challenge, we will be announcing some very cool developments that have come out of this event! I hope you can join us.


daveed | 2021-01-20 15:03:33 UTC | #5

The Overweb Challenge is a little more than a week away and there are almost one hundred registrants. Edgeryders is providing a forum for participants to connect before, during, and after the conference.

If you have a team or are forming a team and are you are looking for members, reply here with the focus of the team and what you are looking for in terms of skills or expertise.

If you are wanting to join a team, reply with your skills, expertise, and/or interests here.


daveed | 2021-01-20 15:03:33 UTC | #6

Hi all, I am Daveed of Bridgit.io. In the challenge, we are working on an opportunity with a UK based non profit to pilot our bridging technology to help prevent and mitigate false claims in the news during the first Post-Brexit UK Election in early May. This is a general election for Wales and Scotland as well as the election of the Mayor of London. It's 20 Million people.

I am looking for team members that are interested in elections, misinformation, disinformation, and education.


daveed | 2021-01-20 15:03:33 UTC | #7

Daveed again... I would be super excited if some Edgeryders were to form a team on smart Communities on the Overweb or some other topic related to the Edgeryders platform. I think that you would find the Overweb to be an amazing extension to your existing platform that could provide a layer of collaboration not possible on the 2D web.

I would be happy to assist and mentor if someone wants to organize.

It fits in with either the Digital Nation or the Overweb SDG Concept categories.

See all the categories here: https://www.theoverweb.com/categories


johncoate | 2021-01-20 15:20:58 UTC | #8

I'm John Coate. I am one of 2 community managers here, but beyond that am looking forward to understand in more detail the Overweb.

My career in the Internet goes back 35 years to before there was an Internet per se. So I have seen a lot of improvement and frankly a lot of degradation. I think we are in a period now of not just questioning whether or not the 'Net has developed into what we all hoped it would be, but so many people trying to build products and services that embody the higher ideals that made it all possible. It did not start out as a winner-take-all scene loaded with monopolies, and to whatever extent it has become that, I like being part of efforts to reverse it.


ivan | 2021-01-20 16:16:16 UTC | #9

Hi @daveed,

[quote="daveed, post:6, topic:15169"] In the challenge, we are working on an opportunity with a UK based non profit to pilot our bridging technology to help prevent and mitigate false claims in the news during the first Post-Brexit UK Election in early May. This is a general election for Wales and Scotland as well as the election of the Mayor of London. [/quote] Overweb looks like a very interesting project and certainly presents interesting concepts I look forward to learning more about it.


matthew | 2021-01-20 23:53:31 UTC | #10

Hi all! Matthew here, with Citizen.Fact--A toolkit for connecting disparities in the information economy by providing a UI to easily access and contribute to the information ecosystem across otherwise disparate sources. We're looking for some more team members!

Our goal during the Overweb challenge is to look at two value propositions: while the idea primarily takes the form of a platform (website) and possibly a desktop client or app for easier access and push notifications, the secondary product will be a behavior-change algorithm that encourages fact-finding and begins to undo the effect of the social-media behavior-changing algorithm towards apathy.


concordis | 2021-01-21 01:34:25 UTC | #11

Tell us about yourself:
I'm a Maui developer and I see an information ecosystem in crisis. This crisis is creating a growing political crisis. Disinformation is everywhere. The American community has been split in two and then turned against one another in a classic and obvious "divide and conquer" dynamic. I'm here to try to provide a practical solution to this problem.

Tell us about your project:
Concordis.io is here to resolve our disinformation problem. Our problem is: the public cannot find consensus within our existing news and information ecosystem.

It doesn't matter how many people are uncomfortable with a given controversial narrative, whether it be about vaccines, climate change, voter fraud, 9/11, or any other topic. It doesn't matter how upset they are. And, it doesn't matter how much time goes by. Instead, the public is always brought more and more into competing factions which then engage in ever-escalating power struggle with each other - for decades, these power struggles were political, but now they are more and more often physical.

An example: we have been presented for years with the competing narratives: "97% of climate scientists believe X." / "No, they don't." There has not been a single step in that time towards meaningful consensus, so that we can address and resolve any problems that we may have around that topic. Concordis.io is here to crowdfund the resources necessary to, in this case, simply connect with the community of climate scientists and ask them what they believe. It's this better kind of truth which Concordis.io is here to deliver.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Sensemaking Concept


SuzieH | 2021-01-21 01:47:02 UTC | #12

Tell us about yourself:
Primarily an entrepreneur, I've been a filmmaker, business developer/owner, mother, passive home designer/builder, tantric sexuality educator/media personality ( I founded and ran the web site Tantra.com from 1995-2015 which included lots of free education, streaming video in an early iteration membership area and a large catalog with 315 products in stock - until Amazon killed that part off). I developed and built out two very early Roku and internet channels for our thirteen HD nature videos. I have lived as one of the four partnerships in a nine household, rural intentional community for sixteen years. I'm also a gardener. And a good researcher. I'm working on my fourth book.
I'm the partner of Michael Heumann. He invented the software that powers Amazon's rating and sorting software (as in where you find and sort reviews). He has developed a more advanced concept that has not been built out as of yet to sort fact from fiction in all media. It is crowdsourced, gets to the heart of the truth and best of all teaches discernment. There's a 2:37 minute video here that explains it: http://truthfilter.com/index.html#home In the 42 years we've been in cahoots we've been cultural documentary, travel and HD nature filmmakers. We have run video production businesses, Michael has been a teacher, software designer and an entrepreneur. I think he'll make himself apparent here.

Tell us about your project:
http://truthfilter.com/index.html#home Web overlay for crowdsourced pro/con (more like: EBRRS - Evidence Based Reliability Ranking Scale - nine levels that teach discernment) evaluation of any media on the web. Color coded/blended highlights in text with annotated sidebars that are noted by the EBRRS.
The goal is to get it functioning on a large media site. That's also the challenge. We would appreciate feedback and don't hold yourself back please! Reality is appreciated!

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb False Claims Concept


concordis | 2021-01-21 02:10:31 UTC | #13

Hello Suzie,

I looked at Truth Filter and I'd love to connect with you. Please check out my site and let's talk:

https://concordis.io

I have a different take on some aspects of how to get the job done but there is a lot of overlap between what we want to bring forward.


TruthFilter | 2021-01-21 06:15:34 UTC | #14

Tell us about yourself:
My name is Michael Heumann from Sebastopol Ca. I am the founder of TruthFilter.com, KnowledgeCenter.com and WisdomPedia.org. I and my team have been working on methods for combining collective knowledge into reliable information resources since we founded KnowledgeFilter Inc. in 1999. We have 3 patents in the space, the first of which was granted in 2006 and now powers Amazon's pro and con review system.

Tell us about your project:
Our latest project, TruthFilter, is a system and method for "Crowdsourcing the Truth" while teaching media literacy to a potential army of citizen fact-checkers. TruthFilter uses color coded annotated links to provide an instant visual readout on content reliability while allowing east access to sources of evidence. While our "corroboration engine" technology was originally developed for science and education, todays huge threat to our democracy posed by misinformation cries out for a major media player to launch a system like ours. We are seeking a media alliance to take over our patent portfolio and build these initial ideas out at scale. For more information visit www.truthfilter.com and watch the 2 minute video on the top of the home page. (This video was produced almost 3 years ago and is more relevant now than it was then). Seeking feedback, ideas , and networking.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb False Claims Concept


SilviaElena | 2021-01-21 08:06:06 UTC | #15

Tell us about yourself:
I’m a full time social worker in the city and county of San Francisco, CA.

Tell us about your project:
I’m volunteering to help welcome people and find teams.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Dating Concept


futurememe | 2021-01-21 08:27:22 UTC | #16

Tell us about yourself:
I am actually a normal guy who likes games and movies way to much. I also like to teach and build really cooooooooool stuff. Stuff that melts minds:) I consider myself an artist first and foremost though.

Tell us about your project:
Working on creating the first spatial OS. At it's core it has a game engine, browser, apps, and social network. It will be open source, free, and power meta humans!! Just simply to troll for good and make my family and world a bit brighter. 2020 sucked we can all agree? Let's fix stuff just for the sheer adventure and fun of it. Also we going super meta and shooting for making TEA. EARL GREY. HOT. a reality.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Game Concept


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 11:16:25 UTC | #17

Hello @matthew,

great to meet you!

Citizen.Fact sound very interesting would love to hear more about it. In connection to that maybe this project by another community member could be interesting for you: https://edgeryders.eu/t/introducing-oliver-worldbrain-io-memex-and-storex-democratising-knowledge/10157

Great that you have such a clear goal for the Overweb Challenge with the website and desktop client.

How are you approaching this algorithm you are referring to?

[quote="matthew, post:10, topic:15169"] behavior-change algorithm that encourages fact-finding and begins to undo the effect of the social-media behavior-changing algorithm towards apathy. [/quote]

@JollyOrc has been looking into how to break such bubbles but looked more at methods utilising human community management teams. (https://edgeryders.eu/t/social-media-is-broken-lets-do-better/10017). What do you see as the key to your algorithm? What as the biggest challenge?


Feri_87 | 2021-01-21 11:33:01 UTC | #18

Tell us about yourself:
No problem

Tell us about your project:
Yes

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Open Concept


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 11:33:12 UTC | #19

Welcome @concordis,

Thank you so much for the concrete example you give about the reported dissonance in scientific "consensus" about the climate crisis.

How are you going about this outreach to the community of climate scientists and how about sharing and spreading your findings afterwards?

A few months ago we tried out a webinar to connect interested people directly with data scientists and resources they developed to discuss Covid data and their interpretation. We are planning and iteration of "Masters of Networks" as a follow up for this in April. There we would like to combine those resources with our SSNA network visualisation method. (SSNA is what we use here to combine huge amounts of data with ethnographic qualitative research methods. A preliminary report can be found here: https://edgeryders.eu/t/ngi-ethnography-preliminary-findings-october-2020/14542)

Would you maybe be interested in participating in the Masters of Networks event?


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 11:47:11 UTC | #20

Welcome @SuzieH,

Great journey and diversity you are describing! You personally might enjoy this coulourful part of the wider community here: https://edgeryders.eu/t/blivande-growing-a-sustainable-ecosystem/10851. House Blivande is a space in Stockholm that combines artists, Makers, coders and alternative explorations including a very alive Tantra workshop community in the "Noden".

The truth filter sounds very interesting! How do you get at those pro-con evaluations? I am sure many people here would love to hear more about

[quote="SuzieH, post:12, topic:15169"] EBRRS - Evidence Based Reliability Ranking Scale - nine levels that teach discernment) evaluation of any media on the web. Color coded/blended highlights in text with annotated sidebars that are noted by the EBRRS. [/quote]

Could you maybe make a post about that, so people can respond and engage with it directly?


JollyOrc | 2021-01-21 11:57:13 UTC | #21

[quote="MariaEuler, post:17, topic:15169"] @JollyOrc has been looking into how to break such bubbles but looked more at methods utilising human community management teams. (Social Media is broken, let's do better!). What do you see as the key to your algorithm? What as the biggest challenge? [/quote]

In fighting words?

I think there should be no algorithm in social media. Us humans have more than enough methods and mechanisms to connect ourselves, even if there is no computer telling us who to like: We interact with and find each other in comment sections, by recommendations from friends, or because we visit the same party.

The assumption that we can create a neutral algorithm that fairly and effectively tells us whom to like and what content to watch is doomed to fail in my opinion.

Not because it is hard to write an algorithm that figures out what I like, but because it is hard, nay, impossible to write that algorithm so that it works for everyone, is bullet-proof against spammers and such, does not silence minorities and conforms to all the conflicting sets of ethics and propriety out there.

So, social media (that means: Tools to connect humans and that allows them to share day-to-day thoughts, ideas, and musings, the equivalent of the town square or pub counter) should not have algorithms. And I think it should also not be the arbiter of what is right or wrong information.

Tell us about yourself: Hi, I'm Christian Buggedei, ornamental hermit and product person at polypoly.coop and the founder of darcy.is

Tell us about your project: The one project tries to put all personal data back onto our devices and instead of having the data come to the algorithms, the algorithms should come to you!

The other project has the tagline "social, done proper" and hopes to eventually build a decentralised but safe and moderated online space.

Overweb Concept Category I have no idea - I've just read about it! :)


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 12:06:43 UTC | #22

@TruthFilter,

really impressed by your experience and track record in developing true knowledge for/on the internet!

This topic is near and dear to many here! How do you go about/think about motivating your "army of fact-checkers? Do you still have collaborations with education institutes from your previous development work and tried introducing it in that context? How do you safeguard against bad actors e.g. a bunch of people being sent from a right-wing forum, for example, to rate election meddling reports suddenly as trustworthy? Is the strength in the numbers and diversity of the people contributing?


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 12:08:17 UTC | #23

Yay! Great to see you here @SilviaElena. Let's find some collaboration dates for these amazing and interesting people! :revolving_hearts:


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 12:17:07 UTC | #24

Hey @futurememe! Yes, let's have some earl grey hot and live long and prosper! You might like to have a look at the Culture Squad Forum where lots of artists share game ideas and project/grant opportunities as well as at the Sci-Fi Economics Lab and the Worldbuilding Akademy which is developing and open-source scifi world for authors and economists to explore together to develop new concepts of future economy where no man has gone before and even further ;).


hugi | 2021-01-21 12:32:11 UTC | #25

[quote="JollyOrc, post:21, topic:15169"] I think there should be no algorithm in social media. Us humans have more than enough methods and mechanisms to connect ourselves, even if there is no computer telling us who to like [/quote]

Doesn't this seem like a statement that runs counter to the evidence? If the last 20 years have shown us anything, it is that humans seem to intuitively prefer to be shown results by an engine that's given a little statistical data to sort through those results.

And besides - where do we draw the line on what an "algorithm" is? Simple sorting by date is an algorithm. Sorting by date and giving priority to content from people you follow is another algorithm. Add to hide content that you have already seen and you have another algorithm. Are you suggesting that social media should have none of these features?

Or are you only talking about "predictive" algorithms that make choices based on who the algorithms assumes you are based on your similarity to some profile? If so, should we also forego algorithms that giver priority to content from your geographical location (thus making the assumption that you will care more about that than about things that happen 3000 km away), given that you have shared that with the service?


JollyOrc | 2021-01-21 12:53:24 UTC | #26

Definition first: When I write "algorithm" I mean "a method of defining the content and order of the feed where the exact mechanism is not immediately understood at gut level by the average member of parliament". So, "here is everything from your contacts in chronological order" is not an algorithmic-based feed, but "here is the things we think you are interest in" is.

That said: Humans intuitively prefer a lot of things that aren't good for them. And a lot of things that are probably perfectly fine in small doses are bad when they become a habit (think alcohol and addiction). Facebook et al have perfected the dopamine triggers that have firmly pushed the use of newsfeeds into the "harmful" category.

The other thing is: Yes, I think for a social platform, it is not helpful to have any automatic influence on what is displayed, regardless of reason. There can (and probably should) be filter buttons that I can visibly toggle to "show only unread things" or "show things near me", but that needs to be a conscious choice, not something that happens by magic.

The real challenge is this: How could such a platform compete with a platform that is engineered to be sticky and addictive? And I think it can only do so by being a more pleasant space to be in.


hugi | 2021-01-21 13:11:54 UTC | #27

[quote="JollyOrc, post:26, topic:15169"] “a method of defining the content and order of the feed where the exact mechanism is not immediately understood at gut level by the average member of parliament” [/quote]

And the problem we end up with is that the "average member" does not really exist when the user-base is the entire human population. If you need to be at the level of a member of parliament to understand how to configure your social media feed, where does that leave the rest?

The problem any technologist that is trying to design for "everyone" is faced with is that people's expectations differ and understanding differ so much that the average becomes a useless data point.

For example; if I had a personal assistant that had been at my side for 20 years, they might curate a list of articles and correspondence for me to read each morning. I would have a "gut level" understanding of how they did that: they know me well and thus know what is important to me. As long as their curation makes me happy, I would not really inquire deeply into their methodology - which would probably be very hard to explain and quite intuitive to them.

Now, for a lot of people who are not technologically minded, it might in fact be the intuitive thing to ask that the "algorithm" should in fact do the same thing and try to predict what will be important to them. They don't want or need to know exactly how this happens - much as is the case with the personal assistant. If the result made them happy, their "gut level" understanding of how this works would be "the algorithm knows what I like and picks things that it thinks will be important to me". Is that the "wrong" sort of "gut level" understanding?


TruthFilter | 2021-01-21 15:01:17 UTC | #28

Hi Maria The idea is that, like with Genius Annotations, anyone who questions an article or posting can send it to TruthFilter for evaluation by the crowd. If we can get a company like FaceBook or Google or a media outlet like the NYT or Washington Poist to host such a site, I think the participation would quickly grow to scale. The benefit to them is that they would not have to be the arbiter of truth and the crowd would be engaged to do some of the heavy lifting of fact-checking research and source evaluation.

As to your second question- this is a good one and needs to be addressed.. One of the concepts of the system is that it does not allow opnions, just facts. If something is submitted as a fact and is really just an opinion stated as a fact, it will quickly be flagged as such and automatically move toward the “warning red” text color. I’m hoping that the side by side pro and con evidence display that pops up on link rollover would quickly reveal attempts to falsely rate a lie as truth. Needs some real world testing! Hoping to get the attention of an organization with the resources to run with this.

Thanks for your input!

Michael Heumann

Founder / CEO KnowledgeFilter Inc. TruthFilter.com KnowledgeCenter.com WisdomPedia.org

Cell Direct: (707) 484-3973

email: michael@truthfilter.com


JollyOrc | 2021-01-21 16:38:07 UTC | #29

[quote="hugi, post:27, topic:15169"] If you need to be at the level of a member of parliament to understand how to configure your social media feed, where does that leave the rest? [/quote]

At least here in Germany, the average member of parliament is more like the lowest common denominator in terms of IT knowledge you can find. So, I meant this as "even a dummy should be able to understand it" :smiley:

(this is the replacement of the tired "so easy, even my grandma can do it!" trope. Because a) that is ageist and b) also sexist. Because one grandma in my family actually did cryptography during the war. Also, Grace Hopper. Also, actual members of congress.)

And yes, designing for "everyone" is very hard and for certain cases near-impossible. But there does need to be a ground level - and the classic, Facebook-style algorithmic feed is not that.

The other thing is that you can always ask your real-life-human personal assistant "why did you show me this?" Try that with Twitter.

But all that is aside the point. The point is that designing feeds that are devoid of harmful biases is really, really, really hard. And that it is even harder for us humans to recognize that bias before we get negatively affected by it. THAT is why I am arguing against such things.


maparent | 2021-01-21 17:15:17 UTC | #30

Tell us about yourself:
I'm also working on a global sensemaking layer for information exchange. Looking at alternatives.

Tell us about your project:
https://hyperknowledge.org

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Sensemaking Concept


thebeautyway | 2021-01-21 19:02:05 UTC | #32

Tell us about yourself:
Systems thinker and all-win designer developing systems that support distributed cooperation and value sharing for the good of all. Also, a writer, artist, and filmmaker. www.benjaminlife.one

Tell us about your project:
Meta-politics - general inquiry into civic participation systems, digital commons spaces, and integral dialogue.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Sensemaking Concept


BentleyDavis | 2021-01-21 19:08:47 UTC | #33

Tell us about yourself:
I am a web and mobile app developer and I have been working on technology to build agreement fight misinformation for over 10 years.

Tell us about your project:
Reason Score (ReasonScore.com) is a process and technology to walk a group of people through a process to build agreement and understand all the information from all the participants in an efficient way and to think transparently.

Gulli Bot (GulliBot.com) is a character that uses the Reason Score process to facilitate agreement on contentious issues on the internet.

I have several other projects in the space of people understanding complex information.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb False Claims Concept


liambroza | 2021-01-21 19:36:50 UTC | #34

Tell us about yourself:
@liambroza

Tell us about your project:
LifeScope.io

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Open Concept


MelaninInk | 2021-01-21 20:40:39 UTC | #35

Tell us about yourself:
I am Rhea Dunn, a mother, multidisciplinary artist, educator, and entrepreneur. I am the founder of a business and educational production, publishing, and consulting company Melanin Ink (www.melanin.ink).

Tell us about your project:
Melanin Ink is a business and educational consulting, publishing, and production company that is currently working on several program initiatives and community projects, which include: •Homies2Cool, a homeschool business supporting families affected by trauma •Black Homeschools, a network of Black homeschooling families and educators •Black Healers Group, a network of Black health and wellness practitioners •Multicultural Homeschools, a network of homeschool families celebrating cultural diversity •Leap of Faith, arts production and consulting •Several community partnerships including the following organizations: Boston COVID-19 Coalition, African Repertory Troupe, Boston Public Health Commission, All Aces, Inc.

During the process of the Overweb Challenge Webinar I had several ideas for possible projects and teams that could work in multidisciplinary ways on things like: •safety and security assessment, evaluation, enforcement •health and wellness •science and research studies related to things like healing arts sciences...and more •education and self-directed learning programs and homeschooling



Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Education Concept


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 20:54:41 UTC | #36

Welcome, @maparent!

What kind of alternatives are you looking for?

I find the 3 different layers describe in context with hyperknowlege quite interesting. Could you maybe write/post a bit about those here as they could an interesting concept and vocabulary for multiple projects and people could easier engage directly with the details of your projects?

otherwise, I would also recommend to you to maybe check out our SSNA stuff, and how we are exploring different conversation and sensemaking layers with that, e.g. here: NGI Ethnography Preliminary Findings - October 2020


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 21:01:51 UTC | #37

Hello @thebeautyway great to have such an artistic polymath join :).

Maybe your interests might overlap with @futurememe. And @concordis and @maparent are working in the same overweb challenge category as you, maybe you could look into joining forces?

And eitherway, I think at the Sci-Fi Economics Lab and the Worldbuilding Akademy which is developing an open-source sci-fi world for authors and economists to explore together to develop new concepts of the future economy could be interesting for you looking at how art and speculation can inform/empower our thinking about what is possible in economics and politics.


MariaEuler | 2021-01-21 21:07:34 UTC | #38

Welcome @liambroza!

When following the link to LifeScope.io I find the

"Control of your personal data is a human right. LifeScope is an open platform for personal data whereby ownership is returned to the user."

Could you tell us a bit more about the project?

Just yesterday we had a seminar and workshop series on the topic of Data Policy and rights. check it out here: https://edgeryders.eu/t/data-and-policy-seminar-20th-january/15163 Maybe there would be some people that conversing and collaborating with might be interesting for you or that would like to hear about LifeScope and share it around.


johncoate | 2021-01-21 21:08:15 UTC | #39

Welcome @thebeautyway. You have quite a few fascinating projects going on. It will take a little time to study up on it all, but it looks like you have thought deeply about the world and are doing something about it. I hope you find this event, and our community here worthwhile!


johncoate | 2021-01-21 21:14:36 UTC | #40

Welcome @BentleyDavis - your projects look very interesting indeed. I hope they can help people come to agreement on controversial issues. I hope you enjoy your time here enough to keep up updated on your progress as well as sharing with us your ideas.


NdidiWrites | 2021-01-21 21:25:09 UTC | #41

Tell us about yourself:
I don't have a tech/AI background but I have worked in the nonprofit and community development sector for 12+ years. My education is in finance and business and I work at the intersection of community development, social enterprise and fighting the wealth gap.

I work with nonprofits that fight covid, health, food and economic disparities in the most impacted and hard-hit communities - largely Black and Brown. I also work and have leadership positions of the Muslim American community.

I am concerned about -The wealth gap, economic disparity and techs impact -Social enterprise -New trends in tech that Black and Brown communities can use to counter economic disparity



Tell us about your project:
I want to create a digital space for Black Muslim Americans that has a self sustaining business model to it.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb SDG Concept


maparent | 2021-01-21 21:43:07 UTC | #42

Thank you Maria!

Maybe alternatives was not exactly the right word; but I am interested in the various systems people are designing for a Web of ideas, because it is my goal that these various systems should remain connected. Not only technical interoperability, but semantic interoperability of evolving semantic networks, which I think requires an event-driven architecture. Another non-obvious design constraint is that diverse sensemaking communities use different names for similar concepts: so grounding topic identity in language is a non-starter for me. Don't get me wrong, it is perfectly appropriate for individual communities to converge on a unifying vocabulary, and to observe (as you did) connections at that level; but the inter-community layer cannot make this assumption.

So.. I am developing this layer to describe language independent links to evolving concepts, and I am curious to see who else is thinking about this problem space at this level. I am also working on the layer above that, describing the argumentation network on this base layer. There are many people working at that level, and I'd be happy to have the conversation about why I think it needs to be built on this lower layer I'm working on.

Regards to all, Marc-Antoine


johncoate | 2021-01-21 21:56:55 UTC | #43

Welcome @MelaninInk. Thanks to the pandemic, rather suddenly home schooling has moved into the mainstream. Multicultural HomeSchools - great idea. I hope you find your time here worthwhile!


johncoate | 2021-01-21 22:03:02 UTC | #44

Welcome @NdidiWrites - we certainly share your concerns and I hope that you find your time with us worthwhile. Would love to hear more about your experiences and ideas for Black Muslim Americans. If we don't collectively fix the widening economic disparities and the racism that drives so much of it, there won't be any real progress on much of anything else, it seems to me. The time to finally deal with all of this is now.


concordis | 2021-01-21 23:29:36 UTC | #45

Still looking to find groups of scientists or others to organize their perspectives into a meaningful whole on Concordis. I'm excited to work with any group which feels like the mass media are not accurately representing the consensus of their community. Sharing findings will be done organically through social media. I'd be very interested! Thank you


abhi | 2021-01-21 23:36:11 UTC | #46

Tell us about yourself:
I’m an entrepreneur, traveller, and investor.

Tell us about your project:
I’m currently researching on ways to improve our collective sense making with AI and decentralization.

Overweb Concept Category
Overweb Sensemaking Concept


Plantey | 2021-01-22 13:29:53 UTC | #47

Tell us about yourself:
My name's Ethan. I've been interested in the future of code and the web since I learned about Bret Victor back in 2017. I've made some connections on Twitter and Discord with those in the movement today, and I've since become interested in PKM, development, decentralized Internet, and related subjects.

Tell us about your project:
I want to help bring the UX of high-quality games to bear on how we learn with computers, synthesizing games, PKM, code, music, and art.

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Overweb Sensemaking Concept


MariaEuler | 2021-01-22 13:40:50 UTC | #48

Welcome, @abhi,

Edgeryders organised a big conference on the topic of AI and (in)justice with experts from academia to the previous Italian minister of economy and finance (Fabrizio Barca) and many people in the community are quite interested and active in this area. This post could give you a nice overview of some of the conversation in this thread: https://edgeryders.eu/t/summaries-of-10-stories-on-topics-relevant-to-ai-justice-workshop/11547


MariaEuler | 2021-01-22 13:46:02 UTC | #49

Welcome @Plantey!

If you are interested in decentralised Internet, this is a good read/ discussion to join: https://edgeryders.eu/t/decentralized-risks-hosting-information-for-others-comes-at-a-cost/9953 to help solve the problem of risk for decentralised information hosts.

From the project goals you are interested in, I would recommend you to connect with your fellow participant @thebeautyway who introduced themselves also in this thread.


iouxo | 2021-01-24 12:55:30 UTC | #50

I'm late to the party, but interested in the results and follow-up. On the challenge website it says "The Overweb Challenge concluded on January 22nd with the closing session in which participants did elevator pitches about their Overweb concepts."

Are these videos the pitches, or are the contents of those pitches available somewhere else? https://www.theoverweb.com/media


MariaEuler | 2021-01-24 13:23:24 UTC | #51

Welcome @iouxo! @daveed could you provide some updates on the followzps and next steps.after the overweb event?


daveed | 2021-01-25 03:48:45 UTC | #52

Hi @iouxo

The pitches are on the bottom of the page (labeled "Clubhouse Integration and Closing Session): https://www.theoverweb.com/media

Direct links to these are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBsu7CztP0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKl1JWrOVgU


daveed | 2021-01-25 03:53:44 UTC | #53

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